7-11 (I'll go back and put in the specific pages) Just because an animal doesn't process cellulose doesn't mean it's a carnivore. Plenty of herbivores are processing fruits with no problem at all. Cellulose (fiber) helps us digest the rest of our food better. If it weren't for fiber, meat would begin putrefying (sooner) because it sits in the gut too long. Everything rots in the gut, it's part of digestion, putrefying is another matter. Veg*n isn't necessarily a "totalizing identity", as usual it depends on the person, personally I like to talk about it quite a bit, another person might avoid animal products but leave it at that. "A vegetarian diet - especially a low-fat version, and most especially a vegan one - is not sufficient nutrition for long-term maintenance and repair of the human body. To put it bluntly, it will damage you." Complete and utter bullshit... My dad has been vegan for 20 years, he is rarely sick and never in a major way and he does great at the gym. "And there are no good plant sources of tryptophan." More FUD... [TRYP] NTR She says saturated fat is necessary for neurotransmitters. (Nuts have saturated fat) 11: NTR cancer from soy 14/15: Does she believe plants are sentient?!? She's acting as if eating a plant is on par with eating an animal... Oh, that is what she believe... What a nut. Even if that were the case, animals eat plants as well, so by eating an animal, you are indirectly eating many times more plants, but without the benefits of actually eating the plants. 17: Why does she hate modern farming techniques? 20: She said it herself, the garden eats manure or animal matter, but then seems to completely forget about the manure after that and says "My garden wanted to eat animals, even if I didn't". 21: Odd, why does she have a problem with using manure for gardening? 22: I got an idea! Instead of killing animals to use them for fertilizer, we just let them live their lives out naturally, then when they die, we can use them for fertilizer. Seems unnecessary though, manure works fine from what I can tell. 23: I thought this was about why vegetarians are wrong, what the fuck does patriarchy have to do with it? 23: It's not a food chain or a circle, it's a web. 23: I'm gonna put this in my will "feed me to the Earth". My body doesn't otherwise have a purpose after death, why not put it to use? 24: Hey neat, she has the same idea. 26: While some people are lactose tolerant (or at least don't react significantly), there is still a whole host of reasons not to drink the crap pus, blood, bacteria, hormones, pesticides, casomorphin 28: Why don't people provide evidence that our current state is the result of eating meat? 34: "No one binges on steak or eggs or pork chops; they always binge on cookies and candies and other carbohydrate junk foods" Well duh, even if the "fat makes you feel full" thing isn't true, you're still not going to be able to eat enough to call it "binging". Besides that, this one bugs me because carbohydrates are probably the best source of energy, the problem is when you strip away the fiber it is commonly attached to, then it goes straight into the bloodstream with no buffering/regulation. Besides, most junk food has a lot of fat, for example you don't have to eat very many of Cub's oatmeal cookies to hit the USDA's fat limit. [TRYP] http://www.theveganrd.com/2010/09/tryptophan-milk-and-depression.html NTR=Need To Research